Hello From Texas



Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » August 26th, 2014, 5:51 pm

First off, I would like to say thank you to all of you for sharing your knowledge.
I have lurked on a lot of forums for a while now and figured I liked this one. My better half calls me and my 14 year old lab her grumpy old men... I can relate.
I basically lived and breathed cars when I was younger. I put it aside while I started my first business around age 21. I worked myself to death (construction) and now here I sit late 30's with a 61 chevy c10 short bed big window. I have forgotten a lot, I remember little.

I'm not building a show car or restoring this truck to original state. I am keeping the body as is for now, I love the patina on the truck. I do furniture restoration and or refinishing and upholstery, so the truck fits me and what I do. Love shopping for junkie furniture in this thing.
It's on a 63 frame, new ball joints, springs, and shocks. Dropped a couple of inches. New wiring harness, new gauges, new glove box, wiper motor and arms, all new door and window mechanics, etc... Right now it has a 305. I have a fresh pump gas friendly 383 I will be dropping in soon, lacking a carb at the moment and few other parts.

I'm sure I will have a lot of stupid and not so stupid questions in the future, nice to have a place to ask them.

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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby grumpyvette » August 26th, 2014, 6:09 pm

welcome too the site!
btw Im old enough to have driven several trucks like that when, they were almost new when, I was a "outside plant TECH" or maybe better known as "telephone lineman" in my early years with AT&T
IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"!
IF YOU CAN , YOU NEED BETTER TIRES AND YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby Indycars » August 26th, 2014, 6:14 pm


Well you certainly got off on the right foot with photos ..... welcome to
the forum !!!

You should fit in real nice here with your DIY attitude. We LOVE questions
here, even stupid one! Ok you all in the background, if you have never asked
a stupid question, then you can cast the first stone! I'm waiting ............
Ok, so I don't see rocks coming our way. I think you are good to go ..... ask
away!!! :P

How about some details on that 383?

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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » August 26th, 2014, 7:51 pm

Thanks for the warm welcome. A DIY guy I am, I like to push my boundaries and challenge myself on what I can do. Sometimes it gets me in trouble because I want to figure things out on my own.

383, it is .030 over
Coated keith black pistons
Scat 5140 crank, GM rods
Moly rings and clev racing bearings.
New stainless valves and chrome moly retainer and locks
Multi angle valve job and mild port work.
Flat tappet cam 500 lift 112 dur
Double roller timing set.
Performer series intake
Looking for a 650 cfm mechanical sec to throw on it.

The truck is going to be a somewhat a daily. I probably drive less than the average.
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby grumpyvette » August 27th, 2014, 8:23 am

BetsyRed63 wrote:Thanks for the warm welcome. A DIY guy I am, I like to push my boundaries and challenge myself on what I can do. Sometimes it gets me in trouble because I want to figure things out on my own.

383, it is .030 over
Coated keith black pistons
Scat 5140 crank, GM rods
Moly rings and clev racing bearings.
New stainless valves and chrome moly retainer and locks
Multi angle valve job and mild port work.
Flat tappet cam 500 lift 112 dur ???? thats MUCH MORE likely to be the LSA (LOBE SEPARATION ANGLE) and an all too common mistake made,reading the cam spec card. the duration will fall in the 190-to-250 deg. at .050 lift range on 90% of street cams
Double roller timing set.
Performer series intake
Looking for a 650 cfm mechanical sec to throw on it.

The truck is going to be a somewhat a daily. I probably drive less than the average.



that sounds like a good combo,do you know the brand and part number on the cam?
links that may prove useful
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1477

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=324

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1070
IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"!
IF YOU CAN , YOU NEED BETTER TIRES AND YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby Indycars » August 27th, 2014, 8:32 am

BetsyRed63 wrote:New stainless valves and chrome moly retainer and locks
Multi angle valve job and mild port work.

Flat tappet cam 500 lift 112 dur


That 383 should make that truck fun to drive for sure!!!

What heads and camshaft part number are you using. It will interesting to
look at all the camshaft parameters.

What transmission and rear gear are you running?

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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 27th, 2014, 8:48 am

Welcome to a wealth of knowlege love the truck!!
"IF YOU CAN SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!"

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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby busterrm » August 27th, 2014, 6:05 pm

Hey BetsyRed, welcome aboard! one of my high school buddies had one just like her, cept he put in a 454 and she was wild and crazy. Good looking ole truck my friend!
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If I can't smoke the tires I want more!!!
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » September 2nd, 2014, 6:45 pm

Sorry, been pretty busy lately.

Here are some specs on it.

Cylinder Heads are GM Cast Iron 72cc Chamber
1.940 In valves
1.500 Ex valves
3/8 rocker studs
7 degree keepers
1.25 valve springs

350 GM Engine Block
GM Early 2 PC block Used
Block was line honed
Block was honed with honing plates
Engine was trial assembled
Lifter bores are honed

Keith Black .030 coated pistons

.030 Filt Fit Moly Rings

Scat 5140 Cast steel crank

Engine is balanced to a 400 wt

Stock rods 5.7 long

Stock style oil pan

Clev 77 large radius Main and rod bearings

Seal Power cam bearings

Brass Freeze Plugs

Set of Hyd. Lifters

Stock Rocker arms

Mell oil pump and drive

Mell oil pump pickup

ARP head bolts

ARP main bolts

Double Roller timing set
A mild street cam 480 lift 112 cen 224 dur at 50

I have an rpm air gap, thought about maybe doing away with the air gap, but I am going to use it for now. Trying to decide on a carb now. Leaning towards a holley 650 vac sec, electric choke. Although I do like mech secondaries and I am use to a heat type choke.
350th trans, not sure of the rear gears yet. I might remove the plate this weekend and see what I have in there.
Honestly I just picked the motor up today and already wish I had went with a fairly stock 454. I have a soft spot in my heart for a big block... Maybe next time!
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby grumpyvette » September 2nd, 2014, 7:31 pm

BetsyRed63 wrote:I have a soft spot in my heart for a big block..


yeah! Ive build several dozens of small blocks and probably three times that many big blocks , because I've always felt the big blocks in almost all configurations have both better options in heads,bigger ports and valves, larger displacement , longer rods and stronger more robust components, guys go nuts over a 406-421 SBC but Ive yet to have any issues building a 402-427 that won,t run with or in most cases exceed the power the sbc produces.
a big block has the option to use 2.19-2.30 intake valves and 1.72-1.90 exhausts , ports generally range from about 235cc with peanut ports to over 405cc with the larger rectangle port heads.
its a rare factory small block head that will exceed 240cfm flow in stock form, even the peanut port big block heads will exceed that flow with minor clean-up porting and they are the worst available


BTW IM not alone there

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/0707ch ... big-block/

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/projec ... m#cxrecs_s

viewtopic.php?f=69&t=5123&p=14765#p14765 (a great deal of related info)

http://www.maliburacing.com/patrick_budd_article.htm
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » September 2nd, 2014, 8:00 pm

Good articles, informative!

Short story, someone had this 383 built, fell on hard times, shop sold it to me. Got a really fair deal on it and that probably influenced me a bit.
Trust me, I have already thought about selling it and finding a bbc. I need to make up my mind before I drop the 383 in.
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby Indycars » September 3rd, 2014, 7:29 am

BetsyRed63 wrote:350th trans, not sure of the rear gears yet. I might remove the plate this weekend and see what I have in there.


There is a much easier way to determine your gear ratio. Basically
you jack up the rear end and turn the wheel and count the
driveshaft revolutions.

http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/gear-ratio.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNgjS5mHI0E

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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » September 3rd, 2014, 12:40 pm

Indycars wrote:
BetsyRed63 wrote:350th trans, not sure of the rear gears yet. I might remove the plate this weekend and see what I have in there.


There is a much easier way to determine your gear ratio. Basically
you jack up the rear end and turn the wheel and count the
driveshaft revolutions.

http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/gear-ratio.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNgjS5mHI0E



Thanks for the info. I have done it that way in the past, but I was not sure how accurate it was.
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » September 3rd, 2014, 1:36 pm

Looks like 3.55 gear ratio? 1 3/4 drive shaft revolutions to 1 tire revolution. Tires spin in opposite direction, so I only jacked up one side.
I don't think I want a true posi, maybe a limited slip might be better than open.
Trying to decide if I need anything over a stock converter.
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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby Indycars » September 3rd, 2014, 5:39 pm

BetsyRed63 wrote:Looks like 3.55 gear ratio? 1 3/4 drive shaft revolutions to 1 tire revolution. Tires spin in opposite direction, so I only jacked up one side.
I don't think I want a true posi, maybe a limited slip might be better than open.
Trying to decide if I need anything over a stock converter.


I bet it's plenty accurate for your needs. If you want to take it a step further, then rotate the wheel 10 turn. Then divide by 10 on the driveshaft revs, but I bet you can't be off more than one gear set ..... example 3.55 to 3.73. Do you need more than that kind of accuracy?

I'm not sure from your comments about a "true posi" if you understand what that really is. They are made to slip internally when the outside tires needs to turn faster than the inside tire when making a turn. I'm running a Ford version of the Pos-trac in my TBucket and even thou it only weighs about 1800 lbs, I don't have any troubles making a turn. You maybe thinking of what's called a Spool, where the two wheels are locked together.

Now whether you need one is kinda of grey area in my opinion for your situation as I perceive it. Sure two tires accelerating the truck is much better, but at what cost and how much will you really use it. Give more about your goals, and maybe we can all chime in with our thoughts to give you something to think about.

If you mean torque converter, then that will open a can of worms when you start talking about that. :D Maybe not so much on this forum, but I've seen that discussed on other forums and everybody likes something different. I would say sure go a little bit higher and it can ONLY help with little down side, but lets see what you have to say.

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Re: Hello From Texas

Postby BetsyRed63 » September 3rd, 2014, 7:43 pm

Indycars wrote:
BetsyRed63 wrote:Looks like 3.55 gear ratio? 1 3/4 drive shaft revolutions to 1 tire revolution. Tires spin in opposite direction, so I only jacked up one side.
I don't think I want a true posi, maybe a limited slip might be better than open.
Trying to decide if I need anything over a stock converter.


I bet it's plenty accurate for your needs. If you want to take it a step further, then rotate the wheel 10 turn. Then divide by 10 on the driveshaft revs, but I bet you can't be off more than one gear set ..... example 3.55 to 3.73. Do you need more than that kind of accuracy?

I'm not sure from your comments about a "true posi" if you understand what that really is. They are made to slip internally when the outside tires needs to turn faster than the inside tire when making a turn. I'm running a Ford version of the Pos-trac in my TBucket and even thou it only weighs about 1800 lbs, I don't have any troubles making a turn. You maybe thinking of what's called a Spool, where the two wheels are locked together.

Now whether you need one is kinda of grey area in my opinion for your situation as I perceive it. Sure two tires accelerating the truck is much better, but at what cost and how much will you really use it. Give more about your goals, and maybe we can all chime in with our thoughts to give you something to think about.

If you mean torque converter, then that will open a can of worms when you start talking about that. :D Maybe not so much on this forum, but I've seen that discussed on other forums and everybody likes something different. I would say sure go a little bit higher and it can ONLY help with little down side, but lets see what you have to say.


Yes sir, I meant a spool. I think for my purpose the current rear end will be enough. My goals honestly are just to have a solid dependable mechanically sound truck. I just don't want to cheat myself by not improving on small things like torque converter etc...
I feel like there is no need for more stall cruising around town, but I hate to cheat my self on performance by skimping on something so easy to replace before dropping the motor in.
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