My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu



Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby grumpyvette » December 26th, 2014, 11:51 am

give me a semi-reasonable limit on a checking account balance, to work with and a 454-496 cubic inch BIG BLOCK that fits under that hood could be built, the same basic way you built the SBC in your t-bucket, and still be a impressive daily transportation, match that to a well built 4L80E with full manual control and youll surprise a whole lot of people in the stop light grand prix with that car.the best part is that depending on the application, you may not need more than the stock block and perhaps the crank, and in some cases even reworked OEM heads, as the basic components you start with,certainly you can build an impressive power plant for similar or even less money starting with a 454 as the basic components and increased displacement do have advantages.
but a properly built big block with shread a stock 10 bolt rear differential eventually.
personally ID start looking at salvage yards for a pick-up or van with a rear differential that is about the same width, as the current differential, , a 9" ford or dana 60 rear that would fit that has disc rear brakes, but be aware the differential center-line and axle offset varies as well as width

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_li ... xles.shtml

http://www.rustynutscarclub.com/ford9inch.htm

http://chevellestuff.net/tech/rear_end_widths.htm

http://www.billavista.com/tech/Articles ... xle_Bible/

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/200 ... ure27.html
IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"!
IF YOU CAN , YOU NEED BETTER TIRES AND YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » December 26th, 2014, 2:12 pm


Just playing at this point, TBucket is still my primary concern and money will be
going to it thru the winter.

With the above in mind what would it cost to build a stock 454 putting out 475-500 hp
at the crank. For this project the price for buying the motor to build would have to be
part of the budget.

What would the expected gas mileage be ...... below 15 mpg would hardly seem like a
daily driver. That's two gallons per day, if gas cost $3/gal or $6 per day, or $1500
per year. I drive 35 miles round trip to work.

Using round numbers.

$500 ..... Good stock bore 454, long block.
$400 ..... Lunati camshaft, lifters and springs [ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lun-1 ... /chevrolet ]
$325 ..... Scat I-Beam Rods, 7/16 ARP bolts [ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sca-26135/overview/ ]
$150 ..... Felpro Gasket and Seal Kit, One piece pan gasket [ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-2 ... /chevrolet ]
$275 ..... SpeedPro Pistons, Hyperutectic [ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/slp-8 ... /chevrolet ]
$475 ..... Speed Demon Carburetor, 850 CFM, Vacuum Secondaries, Electric Choke [ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/dem-1 ... /overview/ ]
$ 50 ..... Abrasives for head work. Bowl cleanup and port matching.
etc
etc
etc
$750 ..... Machine work to include balancing. [Wild Ass Guess]

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$2925

The above is just getting started ...... what else do we need???

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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby grumpyvette » December 26th, 2014, 4:27 pm

like every other build you decide on what your power goal is, and think about your budget limitations, consider what work you can do and what needs to be sent out to be done, and make a few logical compromises.
your local bargain trader or craigs list and occasional track swap meets can usually provide some components like intake manifolds cheaply.
youll certainly need to consider drive train,gearing, and trans type,tire diam and engine compression, head flow limitations, intake design, headers, exhaust system, cam timing and a dozen other areas where youll compromise.
and I would never even consider a cam with that limited duration, if the goal were decent power levels,
youll make logical choices to reach goals.


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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » December 26th, 2014, 6:07 pm


My goal was to get others involved with pricing and thinking. None of
the parts were meant to be a final decision but a way to get prices. Much
better than my guessing!!!

Just trying to see what a daily driver engine would cost for me to build.
Daily driver means 15 mpg minimum!!!

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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » December 26th, 2014, 6:16 pm


I mentioned earlier that I had owned a 1964 Chevelle as a teenager, well I found
my owners manual that I have saved all these years.

64ChevelleOwnersManual_5862.jpg


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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby busterrm » December 29th, 2014, 7:05 am

Hey Rick, so if you were 16 when you got your license and had that car, that would have been in like 69 or 70, dang, your even older than the owners manual! :D
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby busterrm » December 29th, 2014, 7:21 am

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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby busterrm » December 29th, 2014, 7:38 am

Or you could buy this one for 30k and be done with it:
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » December 29th, 2014, 10:53 am

busterrm wrote:Hey Rick, so if you were 16 when you got your license and had that car, that would have been in like 69 or 70, dang, your even older than the owners manual! :D


Being a smart ass will come back to bite you some day!!! :lol:

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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » December 29th, 2014, 10:56 am

busterrm wrote:Or you could buy this one for 30k and be done with it:
Ricks Dream BBC.jpg

I could buy that one, but then I wouldn't be married anymore! hehehe
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby busterrm » December 29th, 2014, 11:19 pm

Indycars wrote:
busterrm wrote:Hey Rick, so if you were 16 when you got your license and had that car, that would have been in like 69 or 70, dang, your even older than the owners manual! :D


Being a smart ass will come back to bite you some day!!! :lol:

Hey I am older than that manual too! :D
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby NOT A TA » December 30th, 2014, 11:13 pm

HEY! I'm older than the damn manual too. Now, get offa my lawn!
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » December 30th, 2014, 11:37 pm

You are getting a bit cantankerous in your old age. You remind me of Fetus on the Marshall Dillion show!!! Hehehe :lol:
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby philly » January 1st, 2015, 12:13 pm

15mpg?


holy shit... you want to borrow my david vizard "performance with economy" book its written in the late 70's and is all about carbureted economy? i think he best way would be to go efi
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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby Indycars » January 1st, 2015, 12:24 pm


If you don't mind, that would be wonderful. I need to buy a better carb for this
car, the A/F idle screw is out 4 turns to make the car idle. The cross bar for the
air cleaner is gone. You will notice a buggie cord in the pictures of the engine.

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Re: My New 1965 Chevrolet Malibu

Postby philly » January 1st, 2015, 12:48 pm

send me your address ive got some stuff for you to read.
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