shop lighting



shop lighting

Postby grumpyvette » March 16th, 2009, 7:34 pm

when you go to buy overhead florescent lamp fixtures the newer style uses the newer smaller diam. bulbs that use less electricity and provide more light, I bought 21 quad fixtures to start then added a bunch more lighting as it requires near daylight levels to see clearly in the shop,after talking with several electricians I made several choices based on needed lighting and component cost.
keep in mind a shop with the walls and ceiling painted white or at least a light reflective color and having a reflective ceiling will have more effective use of the lighting
it also helps to have both overhead florescent and some motion sensor flood lamps mounted lower on the walls for several sorces and directions for light sources


shop lighting is critical to being able to work on engines and cars, Ive got several portable flood lamp fixtures, that come in handy, Ive got several drop lights for use under the car,

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I added lighting since this picture was taken early in the construction process.

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there's no place on the floor of my shop that's more than 6 feet from the edge of a quad light in the ceiling
the shops 36 ft deep and 75 feet long there's 21, 4ft long and 2 ft wide lamps mounted to the rafters evenly spaced in 3 rows of 7 fixtures plus there's 8 motion sensor flood lamps with dual 100 watt flood lamps that turn on if they sence motion near them , the overhead fixtures are switched in groups so only areas in use need to be lit.

KEEP IN MIND YOU DON,T WANT ANYTHING INSTALLED THAT GET HOT ENOUGH TO START FIRES IF LEFT ON OR IN CONTACT WITH FLAMMABLE COMPONENTS or ANYTHING THAT'S EASILY BROKEN in a SHOP, portable lighting MUST be connected to GFI circuits for safety

Ive got 21 4 bulb HIGH INTENSITY fixtures mounted at 16 feet and evenly spaced an 8 dual 100 watt motion sensor activated flood lamps mounted along the walls at 12 feet, its plenty of light under most conditions (the flood lights and motion sensors insure that any area I work in is well lit, from the sides as well as from above)

old picture, less than 1/2 the lights show here

keep in mind the type of floor, ceiling and wall paint and its color and reflective index goes a long way to making the shop appear dark of brightly lit, a white ceiling, light gray or green floor and walls will look far brighter than a much darker color would

btw read this thread as its closely related

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if your worried about using to much electricity by accidentally leaving the lights on over night

there ARE motion sensors switches that can be installed to turn off and on a few lights for normal use, so you don,t need to even touch a thing when you just walk thru the shop, and timer switches that can be set to turn off lights after turning a dial to almost any setting up to about 4-6 hours depending on the model selected


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Re: shop lighting

Postby grumpyvette » June 13th, 2010, 7:16 pm

one factor I seldom seem to see, mentioned or discussed is installing motion sensor lighting both inside and outside your shop.

a well thought thru set of outside motion sensor activated lighting, mounted high enough to be dificult to reach and disable easily makes it rather easy to locate intruders or find your keys on darker nights and give you a good indicator of movement outside your shop, thus increasing security, most motion sensor lighting has a timer so Id advise a 15 minute window on time vs the common 3-5 minute option, And if you can run a connector cable, a buzzer in your main residence letting you hear movement inside your home when the lights outside the shop activate, and posibly a paging system is an option and a motion sensor light thats wired into your shop circuit located in your home gives you a good hard to ignore security indicator in your home if some morron is breaking into your shop.
shop lights that work on motion sensors inside the shop in addition to switched lighting both provide lighting where and when needed but also provide the convienince of lighting your way thru the shop if you need to reach the far side to switch on or off the light switch

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Re: shop lighting

Postby bytor » June 3rd, 2014, 6:58 am

Any of you guys tried the LED light bulbs? I tried them in my garage and I love them. I bought (4) of the 100W LED bulbs and replaced my halogen ones I had and what a difference. The nice thing is the sockets in mt fixtures are only rated at 65W but the LED's only pull like 18W or something. The down side is they are pricey compared to regular old bulbs. It is bright out there now!!! I even used one on my incandescent drop lamp. Now I can see under the car at night and not worry about melting my hair.

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Re: shop lighting

Postby NOT A TA » June 3rd, 2014, 8:12 am

I've bought a few of these fluorescent bulbs during the past year to use in standard incandescent fixtures.. 68 watt draw for 300 watt light equivalent. They're kinda pricey at $16.00 but really come in handy.

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One thing that's always annoyed me is that where there is an overhead door in a typical home garage. If there are lights on the ceiling they're covered when the door is up and when the door is down you loose the natural light during daylight. So I've mounted lights on a 45 angle to the side tracks of the door and one to the bottom section of the door itself that just gets plugged in when desired.

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Re: shop lighting

Postby grumpyvette » June 3rd, 2014, 8:43 am

thats a good point (the open garage door covering ceiling mounted lights and fans)
that many guys fail to think about until it becomes all too obvious.
AS WITH MOST THINGS A FEW HOURS PLANING , an THINKING THINGS THRU AND ASKING OTHERS WHAT THEY WOULD CHANGE ON THEIR SHOPS IF THEY WERE TO DO IIT OVER AGAIN< OR ADD IF THEY WERE BUILDING FROM SCRATCH<HELPS THE END RESULTS
another thing guys fail to think thru is that here in florida during mid day the shop temps can be rather high so having several roof hot air extraction fans, like this pictured below to suck hot air out of the rafters helps reduce shop temps.
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and effective air movement fans , like these with some forcing air down to the flow and some up to the ceiling greatly aids air flow rates, and makes you feel noticeably coolerImage
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helps a great deal, as the cost to air condition a shop on a regular, & consistent basis is prohibitive , but between the heat mid day and a billion biting bugs, during parts of the year, and if you don,t spread the correct crap around on the ground around the shop perimeter a billion red ants in the evenings you might want to think about screens on the shop doors and lots of fans and lighting
adding 8 dual light ,motion sensor lights mounted at about 2/3rds wall height around my inner shop walls in addition to the 21 quad ceiling 4ft florecent fixtures has noticeably increased the effective lighting
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this looks like an interesting option, and ON COOLER EVENINGS , IN SEPT.AND AUG. WHEN THERE'S A BILLION MOSQUITOES,OUTSIDE, IT WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE WORKING IN THE SHOP FAR MORE PLEASANT

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KEEP IN MIND MOST OF THESE PICTURES ARE YEARS OLD AND TAKEN DURING CONSTRUCTION OR WHEN WE WERE JUST STUFFING IN TOOLS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE RAIN DURING THE SWAP FROM THE OLD SHOP TO THE NEW SO DIS-REGUARD THE SLOPPY TOOL PLACEMENT< THERES BEEN MANY CHANGES, NOTICE THE ROLL UP 8FT TALL GARAGE DOOR STORES ALONG THE 16 FT TALL WALL NOT THE CEILING

the FIVE complaints I hear most often stated from guys after they build a shop
(1) I should have built its foundation a bit taller and paid more attention to storm water drainage
(2) I should have put in more electrical outlets and lighting
(3) I should have built it taller and larger so I had more room for the lift and shelving
(4) I should have included a bathroom
(5) I should have included video surveillance, better security and better internal and outside lighting
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