shop lighting



shop lighting

Postby grumpyvette » March 19th, 2009, 4:35 pm

when you go to buy overhead florescent lamp fixtures the newer style uses the smaller diam. bulbs that use less electricity and provide more light, they will be much cheaper to operate in the long term, I bought 21 48" quad fixtures to start then added a bunch more lighting as it requires to duplicate near daylight levels to see clearly in the shop,after talking with several electricians I made several choices based on needed lighting and component cost.
obviously youll need a different arangement if the shops a different size, or height but to give some ideas,my shop ceiling rafters are at 16 ft height I spaced the lights so your always within 6 ft of being directly under the lights,
if you draw a 36ft x 85 ft rectangle and space out three rows of 7 light fixtures evenly your see the basic pattern I used in the shop then I installed 10 evenly spaced dual lamp motion sensor lights on the walls at a 10ft height with dual 150 watt bulb flood lights, thats two on each end wall and 3 on each long wall evenly spaced, this provides a good deal extra light

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shop lighting is critical to being able to work on engines and cars, Ive got several portable flood lamp fixtures, that come in handy, Ive got several drop lights for use under the car, obviously you've got options.
you can mount lights like these spaced about every 6-8 feet in the ceiling and get decent lighting at the shop floor but don,t forget that you can also mount these on the walls or hanging on brackets at an angle in the wall/ceiling corners if your shops got enough ceiling height , to provide a bit more all around day light type lighting


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KEEP IN MIND MOST OF THESE PICTURES ARE YEARS OLD AND TAKEN DURING CONSTRUCTION OR WHEN WE WERE JUST STUFFING IN TOOLS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE RAIN DURING THE SWAP FROM THE OLD SHOP TO THE NEW SO DISREGUARD THE SLOPPY TOOL PLACEMENT< THERES BEEN MANY CHANGES

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I added additional lighting since this picture was taken, early in the construction process.

theres no place in the shop more than 8 feet from being directly under a 4 bulb 4 foot high intensity fixture mounted on my 16 foot rafters, and over most of the shop your within 6 ft of being directly under a light fixture plus Ive added 10 dual bulb 150watt flood light motion sensor lights , mounted at the 10 foot level, so that the lights go on when they sense movement, this adds both more light and light at a different angle, and lights that don,t stay on if your not in the immediate are for more than 15 minutes, the picture looks far darker than the shop actually is

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theres no place on the floor of my shop thats more than 8 feet from the edge of a quad light in the ceiling
the shops 36 ft deep and 75 feet long theres 21, 4ft long and 2 ft wide lamps mounted to the rafters evenly spaced in 3 rows of 7 fixtures plus theres 8 motion sensor flood lamps with dual 100 watt flood lamps that turn on if they sense motion near them , the overhead fixtures are switched in groups so only areas in use need to be lit.

KEEP IN MIND YOU DON,T WANT ANYTHING INSTALLED THAT GET HOT ENOUGH TO START FIRES IF LEFT ON OR IN CONTACT WITH FLAMMABLE COMPONENTS or ANYTHING THAT'S EASILY BROKEN in a SHOP, portable lighting MUST be connected to GFI circuits for safety

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adding motion sensor lights to BOTH the inside and outside of your garage adds to the security
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Re: shop lighting

Postby Truckedup » July 8th, 2009, 6:54 am

I posted this on CT recently.It's my opinion as an electrican but not the only opinion on lighting
Grumpy mentioned 4 tube 4 foot long hi intensity fixtures.I don't know if he means T-12 HO lamps or the slimmer T-8's.This post is for the newer T-8 tubes.
You can buy so called hi output T-8 tubes at electrical supply houses.If these tubes are used with a high power factor T-8 ballast,the light output is about 15 percent better than a standard 4100K (cool white) T-8 tube.A standard cool white tube is about 2800 lumens.The high output T-8 tube about 3200 lumens.This lumen rating is for new tubes as they decrease over time. Most T-8 light fixtures allready have high power factor ballasts,look at the label on the ballast.The hi output tube costs over twice what a regular T-8 tubes costs,so.........you be the judge iif it's worth the cost.
On lighting fixture lens or covers;In a commercial repair garage lighting fixtures exposed to potential damage should be higher than 12 feet or have a lens to prevent hot sparks from falling if a tube or lamp is broken. Now this code doesn't really apply to a residential garage,but it's something to think about.
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Re: shop lighting

Postby grumpyvette » July 8th, 2009, 11:27 am

thanks for the input!
I don,t know which type high intensity 4 bulb fixtures I have, I know the bulbs are significantly smaller in diam, than the old florescent lamp bulbs, I bought them from a commercial electrical supply house, how do you tell the difference?
Ive got a 16 ft ceiling height, Ive got 21 evenly spaced T8 quad 48" lighting fixtures wired so that I can turn on either every other row or all the fixtures (the picture looks far darker than it really is due to the camera light sensor)
Ive also got (18) 60" commercial fans
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and two ceiling duct exhaust fans
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I then added 8 dual bulb flood light motion sensor lights on the walls at a 10 ft height to produce side lighting angles.
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I also have these when required
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one thing Ive found to be really useful is mounting motion sensor lights inside the shop along the shop walls about every 15 feet ,
Ive got 8 of the dual 100 watt motion sensor lights along the inner walls of the shop mounted at about 10 feet up that supply a noticeable increase in lighting over and above what the 21 quad florescent fixtures mounted on the ceiling supply
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these lights give you a different angle lighting and make seeing what your doing a good deal easier, because no mater how many overhead lights you have ,if you've got a lift or your under the hood or the cars on jack stands , the lighting is not ideal, so having light coming from several different angles from the walls of the shop helps as does having a few easily movable drop lights
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Re: shop lighting

Postby Truckedup » July 8th, 2009, 12:18 pm

There's model numbers on the lamps on one side .Post them here and maybe we can ID them.
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