tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad



tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby grumpyvette » February 2nd, 2012, 9:11 am

as many of you know theres long bloody scrape marks from my bleeding finger nails in the concrete as ID dragged , kicking and screaming into the computer age, but IM slowly coming to use computers and grudgingly admit that in some newer car applications they can be a huge help, one tip! read the darn instructions carefully several times...then get your computer conversant kids to explain it in English

youll need this cable or a similar one matching your year cars aldl connector
http://www.nology.com/pdfandzipfiles/ob ... ations.pdf

http://facultyfiles.deanza.edu/gems/wal ... cguide.pdf

LOOK THRU THESE LINKS CAREFULLY

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early version 1984-about 95 OBDI

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=9202&p=33208&hilit=computer+cable#p33208

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later version about 1996 OBDII

http://www.aldlcable.com/sc/details.asp?item=aldlobd2u

Software
TunerPro (free but $30 donation asked for. Unlimited use)
http://www.tunerpro.net/

or
Datamaster ( gives 20 free logs before you have to buy)
http://www.ttspowersystems.com/DataMaster_downloads2.html

Both allow real time monitoring as you saw being done
or recording ( called a log ) of engine functions with playback of the log just like using a VCR
See
http://powertuneplus.com/syclone/tunersguide_dm.shtm

Power Programmers

Like control modules, power programmers reconfigure your vehicle's on board computer to perform at peak levels. But, they work a little differently. Rather than being permanently installed into your electrical system, power programmers are plug-n-play devices.

Before hitting the road, you connect the power programmer to your OBD-II Port, which is handily located right under your dashboard. You will then answer a number of questions about your vehicle, any modifications you have made, and what level of power you want. Based on how you respond to the questions, the power programmer then uploads a new set of operating instructions to your vehicle's computer. The new operating program only has to be uploaded once, so you can pack away your power programmer or experiment with some of the other settings and modes. Best of all, the whole process only takes about 10 minutes, and the only tools you'll need are your own two hands.

The advantage of power programmers is that you have greater control over the tuning of your system. For example, Edge Performance Products let you recalibrate your onboard computer to any changes in tire size, speed rating or even your rear-end gear ratio. These changes dramatically affect your vehicle's performance, but your computer doesn't know to recalculate unless you use a power programmer to communicate with it. Moreover, many of our power programmers from top name brands like Hypertech and Superchips let you tune your engine for regular octane usage instead of the usual 91 or higher fuel grade.

Like control modules, power programmers are made by a number of notable manufacturers, such as Superchips, Hypertech, Edge Products, Diablo Sport, SCT, Jet Performance, Quadzilla, BD Diesel and Edelbrock.

PROGRAMERS


http://www.sctflash.com/PDF/SCT_iTSX.pdf

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8136

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 4A0A0.aspx

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 7A0A0.aspx

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 2A0A0.aspx

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 7A0A0.aspx

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 0A0A0.aspx

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 6A0A0.aspx

http://www.autoanything.com/performance ... 4A0A0.aspx

LAPTOP SOFTWARE

http://www.aldlcable.com/ (youll need a cable to connect)

http://www.linkecu.com/pclink/PCLink

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/reso ... tuning.php

http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products/In ... ftware.asp

RELATED THREADs

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viewtopic.php?f=80&t=3793&p=10036&hilit=software#p10036

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=469&p=9093&hilit=software#p9093


YOU SHOULD NEVER DEPEND ON A SINGLE SOURCE OF INFO<GET A INFRARED TEMP GUN AND LEARN TO READ SPARK PLUGS

(Ive used this one for years)
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http://www.professionalequipment.com/ex ... ermometer/
Wide temperature range from -58 to 1832°F (-50 to 1000°C)
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=579&p=743&hilit=ratio+meter#p743

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=109&p=44341&hilit=reading+plugs#p44341

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=4974&p=29925&hilit=reading+plugs#p29925

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=495&hilit=reading+plugs

viewtopic.php?f=70&t=3949&p=25952&hilit=reading+plugs#p25952

IVE come to use reading spark plug condition, as a viable and reliable cross check on fuel/air ratio meter readings, while the new fuel air ratio meters are great you can still learn a great deal reading spark plugs, checking a vacuum gauge, verifying exhaust back pressure and graphing your ignition advance curve and using a infrared heat gun to read exhaust temps
IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"!
IF YOU CAN , YOU NEED BETTER TIRES AND YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby philly » August 8th, 2014, 11:11 am

in the next couple months as the datsun comes back into service with the factory motor ill try to document the process for efi tuning in relation to turbochargers and all that. hopefully can help someone out looking for answers.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 8th, 2014, 12:47 pm

I will probably be that guy watching like a hawk as you tune. As I will venturing down the tuning road soon enough!!!
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby philly » August 8th, 2014, 12:51 pm

yeaif everything comes together you should be right on my heels time frame wise
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 8th, 2014, 1:03 pm

I hope so life has it's way of throwing curve balls and I am seeing the real cost of what this is gonna take to make a reality also allot of nickel and diming adds up quick allong with big parts also.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby philly » August 8th, 2014, 1:05 pm

Strictly Attitude wrote:I hope so life has it's way of throwing curve balls and I am seeing the real cost of what this is gonna take to make a reality also allot of nickel and diming adds up quick allong with big parts also.


you arent lying... thats why im putting the 280zx back on the street with the factory turbo motor. i just genuinely cannot afford to do a v8 swap in the foreseeable future and i miss driving that car. plus im trying to get out of the corvette.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby 87vette81big » August 8th, 2014, 3:50 pm

The 280 Z Turbo Engine can still get up & Shit Ass Fast Gone Phil.
You have showed us all the Turbo Phil Way.
And much about EFI Tuning.
More than anyone else has.

I will show you the Brian 455 Poncho way soon.
Its a Low buck fun build too.
The Torque Power band of them is increadable for a Big lump of cast iron.
Only aluminium present is the timing cover.

Fel Pro Pontiac V8 High performance Race Gasket Full sets found & bought. #2806.
Bought 2 sets. $80 each. $160. Saved $120 .
$140 Summit price each.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 8th, 2014, 9:10 pm

Poncho and olds motors are gobs of torque I used to have the 403 in my 79 TA
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby 87vette81big » August 9th, 2014, 10:01 am

Strictly Attitude wrote:Poncho and olds motors are gobs of torque I used to have the 403 in my 79 TA

I really like Oldsmobile V8's too like You.
Grumpy don't care for them much.
But Olds Rocket V8 was around long before SBC & BBC.
303 In 1949.
Blew all away.
403 TA was actually faster than 400-4-speed Pontiac Engine TA.
& 403 Birds used 2.56 & 2.41 rear gears. Had more Torque.
Way under rated factory power rated.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby 87vette81big » August 9th, 2014, 10:03 am

455 Pontiac the ultimate earthmover factory stock & modded even better.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 9th, 2014, 10:23 am

I was a much younger hot rodder back then but remember 185hp but I think upper 300s for torque. I believe the previous owner had changer the rear gearing also but I know it used get up and go with a 3800 stall full manual reverse pattern turbo 350. I miss that car hopefully some day I will get my hands on another one.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby 87vette81big » August 9th, 2014, 11:16 am

Strictly Attitude wrote:I was a much younger hot rodder back then but remember 185hp but I think upper 300s for torque. I believe the previous owner had changer the rear gearing also but I know it used get up and go with a 3800 stall full manual reverse pattern turbo 350. I miss that car hopefully some day I will get my hands on another one.

Every now & Then I run across a CHEVY GUY THAT LIKES Olds V8 as I do.
They do alot with what's there near stock.
Defies all Logic & Desktop Dyno Programs.

Wish you lived closer John.
I have an Olds 455 Blick with Crank.
2 1977 403's.
1965 Olds 425A engine 360HP & 470FT/LBS TORQUE.
The Olds 425 I will share & build up eventual here.
Sell all but keep a 403 Olds for myself
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 9th, 2014, 11:35 am

only problem with the 403 is the windowed mains unless you have one of the rare blocks that don't have them used to know the numbers. I have a friend with a late 70's cutlass t-top car with a 403 he said he's almost ready to sell I keep telling him hold on to it he will not be able to get another one. In high school every body rocked a cutlass or monte cheap and the 350 sbc and 350 rockets were common. Circle track and the price of scrap has taken most of those cars off the road (well at least here in the rusty north east)still see one every once in a while un molested with an old lady or man driving it .
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby 87vette81big » August 9th, 2014, 11:59 am

Don't be scared of the windowed mains on a 403.
Flogged mine to 6k -7k RPM daily in past.
No main cap girdle used.
Joe Mondello loved the 403 also.

Ditto here.
Vintage gone in salvage yards.
Its Craigslist & Fleabay. Forum finds.
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Re: tune your engine with lap top computer or I-pad

Postby Strictly Attitude » August 9th, 2014, 1:12 pm

used to go to Mondello's site and dream of his parts
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Postby 87vette81big » August 9th, 2014, 2:19 pm

Strictly Attitude wrote:used to go to Mondello's site and dream of his parts

Joe gave me build tips over the phone several times back in 1998 on my 403.
The new guy I hear is not so knowledgable or honest at Mondellos.
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