stop, take a deep breath get tools and THINK CAREFULLY



stop, take a deep breath get tools and THINK CAREFULLY

Postby grumpyvette » March 16th, 2012, 6:38 pm

stop, take a deep breath get tools and THINK CAREFULLY

about a month ago I got a call from a friend in Colorado that had used some really crappy jack stands to support, his 1970 bronco , one collapsed while he was in the house luckily for him , rather than with him under the car,then yesterday,
my neighbors kid comes over and tells me he can,t figure out how the cars brakes go back together, he bought some disc brakes and he got the car jacked up and the front wheels off , supported only by the floor jack under the front k frame,
then he disassembled the brake caliper and brake pads brake rotor etc, on the drivers side front. only then he looked at the new parts for the first time and found they don,t look even similar to what the parts he took off look liked once apart, so he panics and comes over for advice.
I look at the problem and its obvious the parts store sold him the wrong brake pads, plus he will need a large C clamp to press in the calipers and new brake fluid to bleed the brakes, which he had failed to purchase.
so I took the time to drive, down to the parts store to exchange the pads and get a few items,I drive the now car less guy up to the store and exchange the brake pads and have him buy a quart of brake fluid and let him borrow a large C-clamp. THEN I had him buy two 3 ton jack stands so he doesn,t have the jack fail and have the car fall on him while he works on the brakes, because the price is absurdly low compared to the damage that could result if the car falls, in my opinion its insane to risk a lift time of pain or being crippled for the $25 or so a set of cheap jack stands cost.
btw its a good idea if your not working on solid level concrete to place a 24" x24" piece of 3/4" plywood under the base of the jack stands because over time the pressure can allow the jack stand base to sink into asphalt drive ways.
I then had to point out that he could look closely at the other side front brakes for an indication of proper assembly on the brakes and pointed out that theres an inner and outer shoe and on most disc brakes they are NOT interchangeable as too location installed.
once he had the pads installed I helped bleed the brakes and showed him what to look for.


IF you can,t afford to buy jack stand as least fabricate some car support blocks from scrap lumber and USE THEM
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personally I prefer the 6 and 12 ton rated jack stands if IM working on the car, and wheel chocks behind the rear wheels certainly are a good idea
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Re: stop, take a deep breath get tools and THINK CAREFULLY

Postby grumpyvette » March 31st, 2012, 2:31 pm

why is it so difficult for some people to understand auto repair and trouble diagnoses is not a wild guessing game, but a logical step bye step process where you test, verify and adjust rather that just randomly replace parts?
no one starts out knowing much its just a slow steady accumulation of knowledge process that takes time and experience, but if your going to expect to do it well it takes time,research and a bit of trial and error, and hands on experience.
what amazes me it the huge percentage of people that don,t have enough interest in working on their own personal cars to buy the factory service manual and the correct tools , to do so, and who don,t want to do any research or join a car club , or even make room for jack stands and a floor jack and a few hand tools,in their garage.
yet a significant percentage of the same bunch of guys who base 90% of what they know on a couple car magazine articles either expect everyone else to instantly tell them whats wrong with their car from a vague description like
"its just not running right"or even better they are the first ones to suggest swapping parts , without testing or verifying a darn thing.
my neighbor is like that, his 1970 GTO started running like crap and hes 100% convinced he threw a connecting rod, 10 minutes testing showed a busted rocker arm, but he was already calling and getting prices on a new engine

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