Cam Degree equipment / tools



Cam Degree equipment / tools

Postby stroker87 » May 31st, 2009, 12:04 pm

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I've bin reading alot about cam degreeing since i'll be attempting this in the next week or so, I'm pretty sure I can handle the process but wanted to know about the tools used

I've read and also watch a video about degreeing a cam but have not found out is it better to use the tools where you slide the dial indicator in the lifter bore with out the heads "or" with the heads on and the dial indacator on the spring retainer???

is there a difference?
is one way more accurate "or" easier then the other?

tons of info here helped me out alot on "how to" just a puzzled on the "witch way" to do it, I do not have the tools to do this and will be buyng them so whats the best way to do this so I buy the right tools?
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Re: Cam Degree equipment / tools

Postby grumpyvette » May 31st, 2009, 4:50 pm

read thru these FOUR threads and links BELOW SEVERAL TIMES

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=90

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=974

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9344&p=33901#p33901

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=902&p=1463&hilit=balancer+puller#p1463

http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInstruc ... 119661.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57bn-7Az43M

OK lets go thru the basics ,
you need an accurate degree wheel,

this adapter comes in really handy to mount the degree wheel and spin the crank,
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-4793

a long bendable stiff wire, like tig welding rod or a heavy gauge coat hanger, to use as a pointer for the degree wheel.
and a piston stop to locate TDC,
a couple lifters, you can epoxy together to use for the dial indicator to read off or ideally this tool
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku
naturally the dial indicator and a decent magnetic stand will help
youll need a easy way to turn the crank, and the instructions on how to do the process correctly
I generally prefer to start with cams installed STRAIT UP, SPLIT OVERLAP

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku


summitracing sells these kits for about $86
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g1056
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youll need one bushing kit to make corrections

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-4760

YOULL WANT THESE TOOLS LISTED BELOW ALSO[/color]
Ive used mine only a few dozen times but its well worth the money (I previously used two solid lifters I epoxied together on hydraulic or solid lifter flat tappet cams OR a pair of solid roller lifters Id brazed dimes into to measure from on roller cams)
the first time you degree in a cam, you wonder how difficult this COMPLEX PROCEDURE will be, but after doing it MANY DOZENS of TIMES it amazes you that you worried about it the first few times.
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-4925
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http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900134
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http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... =PRO-66830
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http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... =MOR-61755
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-61755/
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-62191/
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THE LONGER I USE THE MOROSO DEGREE WHEEL AND BBC CRANK SOCKET THE MORE IVE COME TO APPRECIATE THEM,, BTW the COMP CAMS SBC VERSION IS BELOW
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-4 ... refilter=1
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http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku
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Re: Cam Degree equipment / tools

Postby stroker87 » May 31st, 2009, 11:23 pm

Grumpy I have a pretty good feel for doing it bin reading and watch a video about doing it

But I seen them do it with a dial indicator "in" the lifter bore and another way with the dial indicator on the spring retainer

out of the 2 way of doing it is one better then the other??

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Re: Cam Degree equipment / tools

Postby grumpyvette » May 31st, 2009, 11:59 pm

stroker87 wrote:Grumpy I have a pretty good feel for doing it bin reading and watch a video about doing it

But I seen them do it with a dial indicator "in" the lifter bore and another way with the dial indicator on the spring retainer

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=974&p=1699&hilit=printable+degree#p1699

out of the 2 way of doing it is one better then the other??

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you do it off the lifter not the valve spring simply because adding the pushrod and rocker into the process adds far to many variables, like taking up slack, rocker ratios, friction,possiable ratio variations,manufacturing tollerances, etc. that use of the lifter riding directly on the cam lobe alone or that tool replacing the lifter so the dial indicator can be used easier (THE PREFERED, TOOL) totally eliminates, any variables, and allows faster rechecking

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRO-66830/?rtype=10
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Re: Cam Degree equipment / tools

Postby stroker87 » June 1st, 2009, 12:13 am

I thought that might be the way to go grumpy straight off the cam but wasnt sure, I'm going to order that one tomorrow with a degree wheel

I also sent you a pm about the head gaskets
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