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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:40 pm 
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READ THIS THREAD

http://loctitefreezeandrelease.com/

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=729&p=1026&hilit=easyout#p1026

in an ideal world youll have a decent center punch
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so the drill won,t wander, off center in the first bit of drilling the hole for the bolt extractor

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=729&p=1026&hilit=easyout#p1026

http://www.freealloil.com/

http://www.crustyquinns.com/tech/easyout.html

http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/may2003/techtotech.cfm

if you can drill thru the center of the broken bolt with a bit approximately 2/3 the diam. of the broken bolt, until the bit goes ALL the way thru then soak the $%^ out of it with FREEALL penetrating oil,(this stuffs amazing) this will allow the oil to soak in from both ends of the broken threaded section, let it soak at least 30 minute while you re-apply more spray oil every few minutes, then insert the easy out or reverse twist drill bit,and gently twist the broken bolt remains out of the threaded hole, BTW heating and cooling the bolt, helps. heat with a propane torch the cooling it with the spray oil helps to loosen its grip on the threads if its really stuck

http://www.jackstoolshed.com/index/page ... ll+Bit+Set

your local hard ware store probably has COBALT DRILL BITS, or DIAMOND DRILL BITS, but read the label you need, a bit rated for hard steel, take your time, drill a lower RPM speeds and keep the bit wet with spray oil AT ALL TIMES or it will burn and dull the edge, youll most likely need a 1/8" and a matching EASY OUT

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/drillfaq.htm

http://www.askthebuilder.com/How_To_Dri ... ideo.shtml


http://www.toolprice.com/category/screw ... drillbits/

http://www.toolprice.com/product/1218A/ ... moval.html

http://www.toolprice.com/product/8304D/ ... o_USA.html

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Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine
tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.
They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional
machinist, Bud Baker.
They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants
with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from
a "scientifically rusted" environment.
*Penetrating oil ..... Average load*
None ...................... 516 pounds
WD-40 ..................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ................ 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ............. 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ................ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix..............53 pounds
The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic
transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better
than any commercial product in this one particular test.

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Re: removing rusted bolts
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:17 pm 
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I've used left handed drills many times with good success. Every situation calls for different solutions. Heat from an oxyactelene torch works a bit better then a propane or map gas torch.

I've even blown the center out of larger bolts with a cutting torch... If you do it right, the bolt is gone and the threads are still good. Its not for the faint of heart though.

I've had pretty good luck using PB Blaster penetrating oil too.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=2204
a good example, of a snapped off bolt in need of removal
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Re: removing rusted bolts
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:37 pm 
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OK lets say you've screwed up and busted off a EASY-OUT hardened steel bit during the bolt removal process, now what?
obviously you'll quickly find out that standard drill bits won,t touch a l EASY-OUT hardened steel bit style bit as its far harder than most standard drill bits

you should know that hardened steel requires a slow drill speed (UNDER 300rpm in most cases) AND REQUIREs a constant flow of cooling oil, or a hardened drill bit will very quickly loose its edge, in seconds in some cases, YES IM WELL AWARE,that the tendency is to lean on the drill bit and spin it as fast as you can, which is exactly the wrong approach here, you need to apply steady pressure and low drill speeds and frequent lubrication, Ive used marvel mystery oil mixed with about 30% acetone as a lubricant for years with good results, but its very important to lube frequently,and drill slowly WD40 works as does CRC spray lube.
a hardened center punch helps center the bit and keep it from wandering off center.

http://www.ehow.com/video_4950955_drill ... steel.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4q8UhbpaG0

When to Use a Carbide Drill Bit
By: Gene Rodriguez, III

Drill bits undergo a lot of stress when drilling a hole. The high-speed rotation of drill bits generates friction that, in turn, generates heat. The friction between drill bit and material leaves drill bits slightly duller after each use. The heating and cooling of the drill bit material can weaken the internal structure of the bit over time.

The Common Drill Bit
Common home repair drill bits are made of steel or High Speed Steel (HSS). Although inexpensive, common steel drill bits tend to wear out or break very quickly. HSS drill bits last longer than steel, but are more expensive. These types of drill bits are most effective when used on wood, drywall or plastics.

A Bit Stronger
Coated drill bits use another, harder material to coat steel or HSS drill bits. Titanium carbide or titanium nitride coatings can increase the lifespan of a drill bit by two to three times. These types of drill bits are useful when drilling hardwoods or thin metals.

When The Going Gets Tough
Carbide drill bits are among the strongest drill bits available for home use. Carbide drill bits are more expensive than steel or titanium coated drill bits, but will last longer and stay sharper.

Carbide drill bits are absolutely necessary when drilling stainless steel or other high-density materials. No other drill bit can handle the job.

Regardless of the material that you usually drill, a carbide drill bit will last up to 25 times longer than a common steel bit. This can make carbide drill bits an economical choice for woodworking, furniture building or other large-scale projects.

When cutting dense material, use a cutting lubricant to avoid generating excessive heat. Overheating a carbide drill bit will shorten its lifespan. Always let the drill bit do the work. Applying too much pressure will quickly dull your drill bit.

http://www.ncprogramming.com/drill_size_chart.html

http://www.thetoolhut.com/tap-drill-sizes.html

http://www.drillbitwarehouse.com/home?p ... egory_id=9


titanium drill bits, better than high speed steel but may not be hard enough

Carbide drill bits,very good but fairly expensive

diamond drill bits
--best, very expensive

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