Franzinator Air Dryer



Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 3rd, 2012, 12:56 pm

grumpyvette wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAOuuaNuJUo&feature=youtu.be

this video seems to be rather interesting

I don't see why the motor would not get just as hot as it did before the modification, but he says the motor only gets luke warm (@ 2:08 in video). It might be just as good as the copper fixture in the post above and certainly would be cheaper if you already had something laying around.

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby grumpyvette » February 3rd, 2012, 6:25 pm

I had my B-I-L grab a large air conditioner condenser, Ill post results after I do a few mods and fabricate a drier and test results
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 3rd, 2012, 6:43 pm


I just started planning the installation, but this is what I have in mind at this time for the area where I will be installing the air dryer. First a picture of the actual area, then my drawing of the installation.

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This tubing bender just came in today from Aircraft Tool Supply. It's an Imperial 370-FH that can bend 3/16, 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" tubing, 180 degree turns. Most tubing benders will only do up to 3/8", so my choices were limited if I didn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars.

I wanted to get some experience with a tubing bender, so I decided not to use the copper fittings you can buy.

This bender cost $45.95.

http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detai ... T_ID=370FH

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 3rd, 2012, 8:04 pm

Here is an excellent tutorial on the use of the Imperial Tubing Bender 370-FH.

http://www.dualrudder.com/rv7/tube-bending

http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detai ... T_ID=370FH

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby mathd » February 4th, 2012, 8:57 am

Indycars wrote:Here is an excellent tutorial on the use of the Imperial Tubing Bender 370-FH.

http://www.dualrudder.com/rv7/tube-bending

http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detai ... T_ID=370FH


Wish we had this tool when we re-did the rear brake line on the old S15 pickup
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 5th, 2012, 8:01 pm

Hard to believe a few fitting could add up to $50. Some are just in case, so I don't have to make another trip. The three 1/4" ball valve cost about $24. Lowes didn't even have 1/4 fitting, except in brass, they only cost $8 for 1/4 x 3" nipple.....NOT going to spend that for 1/4" pipe. Went to Home Depot, they had some 1/4" pipe.

I hope to have the Franzinator hooked up tomorrow....taking Monday off to work on it.

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby grumpyvette » February 5th, 2012, 9:54 pm

it will be very interesting to see the difference if any in the results we get when our air dry projects are complete and tested, I spent some time on it yesterday and my brother in law spent several hours, we shall see soon enough
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 6th, 2012, 10:00 am

grumpyvette wrote:it will be very interesting to see the difference if any in the results we get when our air dry projects are complete and tested, I spent some time on it yesterday and my brother in law spent several hours, we shall see soon enough

How should we determine how effective the air dryer is??? Can't just measure water drained per hour compressor runs, that would depend on humidity levels in two different locations.

Measure the delta T (Temperature) from input to output maybe.

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby grumpyvette » February 6th, 2012, 10:15 am

Im just going to spray the high pressure air at a sheet of paper for 3-5 minutes after the compressors been running for an hour and if i don,t get any indication of moisture on the paper, its a huge success
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 6th, 2012, 7:54 pm

Changed my mind about the side of the enclosure to mount the air dryer.

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I must be the only one that didn't know about buying the correct size tubing bender. The Imperial tubing bender says it will bend 1/2" tubing. That should work cause I bought what's called 1/2 copper tubing. But what I didn't know was the Imperial is talking about the outside diameter and when you buy tubing it's determined by the inside diameter. So I suppose I will buy a 5/8" spring tubing bender so I can complete the installation.

Big frustration since I took a day of vacation to complete this, but NO it not going to happen!!!

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby mathd » February 7th, 2012, 9:11 am

Ahh that suck.
I gotta take care of that when am getting one of these tool :)
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby grumpyvette » February 7th, 2012, 9:41 am

just a question here?

obviously the tubing won,t fit the saddle correctly, but did you even TRY bending the tubing with the tool anyway?
yes it sounds like a darn dumb question but you might be surprised it may work
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 7th, 2012, 9:54 am


I was embarrassed when I posted the picture of the enclosure with the Very Dirty compressor. I've had
it 20 years or more and have never cleaned it. So I removed the pump and motor and cleaned it by hand
with a scraper and WD-40.

Still not a thing of beauty, but it's clean now.

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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby mathd » February 7th, 2012, 2:03 pm

grumpyvette wrote:just a question here?

obviously the tubing won,t fit the saddle correctly, but did you even TRY bending the tubing with the tool anyway?
yes it sounds like a darn dumb question but you might be surprised it may work

I also thought about that this afternoon.
Looking at the bend this kind of tools make, it make sense.


Indycars wrote:
I was embarrassed when I posted the picture of the enclosure with the Very Dirty compressor. I've had
it 20 years or more and have never cleaned it. So I removed the pump and motor and cleaned it by hand
with a scraper and WD-40.

Still not a thing of beauty, but it's clean now.

CompressorBefore&After01.jpg





At least you got one, i still dont have a GOOD compressor and i still dont have 220volt, oh well am young and still plenty of time left to accomplish things :D
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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby Indycars » February 7th, 2012, 2:27 pm

Yes I went ahead and tried to bend the tubing last night, but
all it did was try to push the tube into the saddle leaving scares on the tube.


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Re: Franzinator Air Dryer

Postby grumpyvette » February 8th, 2012, 10:31 am

my B.I.L. is an air-conditioning and major appliance repairman
hes currently converting an older air conditioning condenser ,fan and internally baffled freon hold tank into a moisture separator assembly for the shops air compressors ..we shall soon see how well, or even IF that work,s (hey the parts were cheap enough) if it functions , after being tested ,once its temporarily installed ,for testing ,ILL build a small concrete 3ft x 3ft and 4" thick mount slab and have it installed outside the shop directly opposite the compressor on the other outside wall location so I don,t have it taking up floor space

THIS SET-UP PICTURED BELOW WAS A FIRST TEST SET_UP IT FAILED TO WORK CORRECTLY AS THE PIPE CROSS SECTION WAS FAR TO RESTRICTIVE, I LATER REPLACED THIS WITH FOUR AUTO AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSERS FEED IN PARALLEL

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