Remote solenoid, schematic



Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby Pete66 » May 13th, 2011, 5:44 am

Hi Grumpy,
My first technical post on your forum. :)

I have a Powermaster 9000 starter now, and the battery in the trunk, and now planing for an remote solenoid.
(have fryed a couple on original solenoids earlier)
But im not sure how to wire those things up...

The instructions for the powermaster says: Connect S on the starter to remote solenoid S.
If possible, i like to have the Batt+ HOT only when cranking, and the COLD.
Im running all cables inside the car.

I'v seen a lot of drawings here regaring this, but not sure wich one to use.
There is one drawing from the "Nova forum" that could fit, but the BATT+ here is HOT all the time.

Hope you see what am aiming for...
Thank you for your time Grumpy!
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/Pete
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Re: Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby grumpyvette » May 13th, 2011, 9:31 am

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4395&p=11556#p11556
Id start by cleaning the battery terminals and cable connections carefully, a great many problems blamed on battery's and fuses are basically high resistance or intermittent connections, then use a multi meter to see what your dealing with
I think this link , and its SUB linked info should help
IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"!
IF YOU CAN , YOU NEED BETTER TIRES AND YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!
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Re: Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby Pete66 » May 14th, 2011, 3:18 am

Thank you for the infomation page... but i still feel a little confused.

The drawing show a "jumper" cable from starter solenoid B+ to S.
And the text says: 2. Do Not "Jump" the starter solenoid from the battery cable.

I must say im lost here...

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Re: Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby Pete66 » May 14th, 2011, 5:04 am

Grumpy,
I read someting about adding a 30A relay also, is this what you mean:

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And, if so... how do i implement that in the schematic?

Lots of questions, but i like to get to the bottom of this cause it looks like a good idea with the Ford solenoid.

Thank you very much!
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Re: Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby grumpyvette » May 14th, 2011, 10:17 am

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this is most likely both the easiest diagram to use and understand

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most small blocks use the strait bolt pattern, many use the smaller 153 tooth flywheel size, most BIG BLOCKS use the larger 168 tooth flywheels and the diagonal bolt pattern starters but there are engines that used either or both
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Re: Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby Pete66 » May 14th, 2011, 1:27 pm

Okay... so there is no starter problem with the "jumper" to the "S" post when using this configuration then...
No "running on" symptoms with the starter when letting go of the ignition?
I'v read some about that when using a Minstarter, but this is the way to do it then?!

This is a very simple way to do it ...
Thanks!

Oh, one more thing; is there some "Ford relay" that is much better than the rest?
Or the other way around, is there some that one should stay away from?

The electrical system is so very important to have in superb shape, thats why im asking.
I'v had the worst, now i want the best... :)

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Re: Remote solenoid, schematic

Postby Pete66 » May 15th, 2011, 10:40 am

Alright, i did some hard reading on the Scotts's Nova forum...
And this is what he says:

However, the last time I checked it costs $24.95 + shipping, plus it wires it in such a way that will not work on a modern, high-torque mini-starter.
I found that the starter would stay engaged for about a second after I released the key.
The problem was that the new, permanent magnet starters don't disengage the bendix properly with the jumper setup because it cuts off the power not only to the "S" terminal but also the main battery terminal.
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What I did was revise the wiring to simulate the original setup. Using the diagram below will still send a full 12V to the "S" terminal on the starter solenoid.
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So it looks like the upper diagram is for "standard" starters, and the lower diagram is for "mini" starters.
(no jumper wire)

Could this be a correct assumption?
If so, it looks like i have to abandon the idea of NOT HOT B+ cable...

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